During an episode of “Inside with Jen Psaki” on MSNBC, host Jen Psaki displayed clear signs of concern when prominent legal analyst Neal Katyal revealed his state of distress, referring to it as “freakout mode,” regarding the trial of former President Donald Trump for his actions on January 6. Katyal expressed his worry about the impact of Trump’s immunity claims on the progress of his federal case, which involves charges related to the 2020 election.

Psaki asked: “As much as we’re all impatient, and as much as it’s not aligned with the timing. Give us a sense of what else could be going on behind the scenes here in your assessment. And if this is not gonna move forward soon as, I mean, in the coming weeks, could the federal election trial start in June, July and still be concluded before the election?”

“It could. I mean, my view is that actually the normal schedule for an appeal of this magnitude, with these types of public interest at stake, would have been that this case is would have been decided by now. So I understand, like an ordinary garden variety DC circuit appeal,” Kaytal said.

“It takes longer, I think, an average disposition time of about six months. But in the case of this gravity, it should be moving more quickly. Take, for example, when the Court of Appeals for the in the South, reversed the — Judge Cannon’s decision last year to protect Donald Trump. It took them, I think, nine days. And so, to use your phrase, Jen, at the beginning of this show, I am officially now at the freakout stage. I resisted that for a long time, but we are now at the point,” he added.

Psaki jumped in and said: “You don’t typically freak out, so that’s important!”

“Yeah. No, I think we’re now at the point, to use a different legal phrase, justice delayed is justice denied. I mean, I can’t imagine a more compelling need for speed than the idea that American citizens deserve to know before the election whether a candidate for office is a felon or an insurrectionist. And it’s even more galling to me because this is an easy case. There is no responsible constitutional scholar who thinks Donald Trump is right, that there is an absolute immunity that a president can go in, orders Navy SEAL Team Six to go murder his political opponent, and then go and murder the senators who would try him for impeachment,” Katyal said.

Katyal added: “That cannot possibly be right. And Judge Chutkan set a fast schedule here. And I have no idea what the Court of Appeals is doing right now. But I can tell you that I’m really worried that this delay is going to put the trial past June. It’s possible that Trump will try and go to the Supreme Court after he loses on the Court of Appeals. That can take months. This is a real problem.”

“Judge Chutkan, I think it’s important to remind people she’s just adapting to waiting for this ruling. So she’s just trying to adapt to. Okay, Andrew, because you are also known for keeping all of us calm here and keeping millions of MSNBC viewers calm. Where are you on the freak-out-a-meter here on your end?” Psaki asked.


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