Tucker Carlson, co-founder of the Daily Caller, launched into a lengthy verbal tirade in response to an Australian reporter’s questioning about Russian President Vladimir Putin. The reporter inquired if Carlson felt any shame or regret regarding Putin’s decision to grant an interview to the Daily Caller co-founder, suggesting that he may be a supporter of the Russian leader.

“I thought you were describing Putin as a psychopathic liar and yet now you’re taking his word for things?” Carlson hit back. “I mean, let me just quickly unpack your absurd soliloquy if I can … Ukraine has been completely destroyed, and now Zelensky has passed a law allowing foreign corporations to own land there. So you tell me what Ukraine is gonna look like in 30 years when all of it is owned by BlackRock and multinational corporations and its population is not Ukrainian. So the tragedy of what’s happened in Ukraine is orchestrated by the western powers, including by your government and driven by my government — I feel shame about it and I hope you do too — is one of the greatest crimes of my lifetime.”

“So the idea that somehow if you’re against that you’re for Putin, well of course, that’s absurd,” he continued.

Carlson urged American citizens to focus on holding their own leaders accountable instead of blaming Putin, alleging that the U.S. and other democratic nations have turned a blind eye to human rights abuses and the erosion of the rule of law.

“I’m not saying that we are morally equivalent to Putin, I’m not saying that,” Carlson continued. “What I’m saying is, our concerns should be, first and foremost, how are our countries run? And we give our own leaders a pass time and time again because they point to some other creep on the world stage and say ‘he’s bad.’ Kim Jung Un is bad, well, yeah of course he’s bad. That’s why I don’t live in North Korea. It’s why I don’t live in Russia. I have no interest in living in Russia. But the point is, you’re bad too.”

Watch the full exchange below: