President Joe Biden and former President Barack Obama were observed on video during Ethel Kennedy’s funeral on Wednesday, seemingly discussing the electoral prospects of Vice President Kamala Harris, as reported by a professional lip-reader to the New York Post.

Biden remarked to Obama that “she” is “not as strong” as him, to which Obama responded affirmatively, stating “that’s true.” This exchange was captured on camera and interpreted by Jeremy Freeman, a forensic lip reader based in London, who was commissioned by the New York Post for the analysis. The specific individual being referenced by Biden and Obama remains unclear; however, the New York Post suggests that their dialogue pertains to the vice president’s chances in the upcoming election.

“She’s not as strong as me,” the president said to Obama, according to the outlet.

“I know … that’s true … we have time,” Obama seemingly said.

“Yeah, we’ll get it in time,” Biden added, according to Freeman.