During his address at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention (NABJC) in Chicago, Illinois, on Wednesday, former President Donald Trump asserted that Vice President Kamala Harris underwent a “sudden” transformation and “became” black. When questioned at the event, Trump was asked whether he thinks Harris is “only on the ticket because she is a black woman.”

“Well, I can say no. I think it’s maybe a little bit different. I’ve known her a long time indirectly — not directly very much — and she was always of Indian heritage,” Trump said. “And she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn’t know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black, and now she wants to be known as black. So, I don’t know, is she Indian, or is she black?”

“She has always identified as a black woman from a historically black college,” ABC News’s Rachel Scott interjected.

“I respect either one, but she obviously doesn’t,” Trump added. “Because she was Indian all the way, and, then, all of a sudden, she made a turn, and she became a black person.”

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